Comments on: Science and Your Red Wine Headache http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/ Wine, wine, wine, more wine and motherhood Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: michele http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-14355 michele Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:08:55 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-14355 Ditto about migraines associated with red wine (just one glass will do it). Does anyone know if cooked red wine has the migraine-causing effect? I'm about to try a recipe for braised beef and it calls for 5 cups... Thanks! Ditto about migraines associated with red wine (just one glass will do it). Does anyone know if cooked red wine has the migraine-causing effect? I’m about to try a recipe for braised beef and it calls for 5 cups…

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]]> By: Mike Miller http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-5666 Mike Miller Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:10:19 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-5666 I am 65 with many years experience. I get very bad migranes from most beers except German wheat bear and americam Millers. They last approximately 24hrs from time of consumption. I am not asmatic. I did have a bad alergic reaction to medicinal sulpholomides 20 years ago. With wines some Australian reds are ok but most whites are dangerous particularly chardonays and Aus Moselle style wines. Aus sparkling wines are much safer.NZ whites and reds are very (benign) and OK. So called cask wines are absolute brain destroyers (1 glass and nothing else to drink at all). In UK, French, South African, Chilean, Argentinian, Spanish, German and Italian wines are mostly ok but not if bulk shipped and bottled off the estate, red or white. I suspect level of sulphite content is higher for bulk transport and may be determining factor in brain pain coefficient!. Have just had eye operation and have to use drops containing sodium metabisuphite preservative 4 times a day and by day 4 migrane is terrible with nausia and chest tightness. Some relief from ergotamine drug. Will be starting alternative drops tomorrow so should know if sulphite was culprit in week or so. Any one know of safe "antidote" for before or after treatment. Regards Mike Miller I am 65 with many years experience. I get very bad migranes from most beers except German wheat bear and americam Millers. They last approximately 24hrs from time of consumption. I am not asmatic. I did have a bad alergic reaction to medicinal sulpholomides 20 years ago. With wines some Australian reds are ok but most whites are dangerous particularly chardonays and Aus Moselle style wines. Aus sparkling wines are much safer.NZ whites and reds are very (benign) and OK. So called cask wines are absolute brain destroyers (1 glass and nothing else to drink at all). In UK, French, South African, Chilean, Argentinian, Spanish, German and Italian wines are mostly ok but not if bulk shipped and bottled off the estate, red or white. I suspect level of sulphite content is higher for bulk transport and may be determining factor in brain pain coefficient!.
Have just had eye operation and have to use drops containing sodium metabisuphite preservative 4 times a day and by day 4 migrane is terrible with nausia and chest tightness. Some relief from ergotamine drug.

Will be starting alternative drops tomorrow so should know if sulphite was culprit in week or so.

Any one know of safe “antidote” for before or after treatment.

Regards Mike Miller

]]> By: swirlingnotions http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-150 swirlingnotions Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:10:36 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-150 Great article. I'm so curious to see what comes of that amine research. I don't get headaches from red wine, but I do feel woozy the day after if I drink a glass or two too much (and that doesn't happen very often). I have found it intriguing, though, how I can seemingly drink all day long in Italy and France (wine with lunch, wine after lunch, wine before dinner, wine with dinner, an aperatif after dinner) and a) not get drunk and b) not feel the slightest bit icky the next day. Yet at home, I'm constantly monitoring my "3 drink" rule over the course of an evening. (I know if I venture into the fourth glass I'm asking for trouble). Do you think it's just the environment (and perhaps the amount of food I'm consuming with the wine in Europe ;-)) or do you think there's a technical reason? Have you found that to be true? Great article. I’m so curious to see what comes of that amine research. I don’t get headaches from red wine, but I do feel woozy the day after if I drink a glass or two too much (and that doesn’t happen very often).

I have found it intriguing, though, how I can seemingly drink all day long in Italy and France (wine with lunch, wine after lunch, wine before dinner, wine with dinner, an aperatif after dinner) and a) not get drunk and b) not feel the slightest bit icky the next day. Yet at home, I’m constantly monitoring my “3 drink” rule over the course of an evening. (I know if I venture into the fourth glass I’m asking for trouble). Do you think it’s just the environment (and perhaps the amount of food I’m consuming with the wine in Europe ;-) ) or do you think there’s a technical reason? Have you found that to be true?

]]> By: Gluhwein.Net Blog » Blog Archive » Does Red Wine Cause Headaches? http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-136 Gluhwein.Net Blog » Blog Archive » Does Red Wine Cause Headaches? Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:04:48 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-136 [...] headaches from red wine? Think the sulfites caused it? Wine Scamp wrote a great article about what really causes wine headaches. Current research supports the theory that biogenic amines [...] [...] headaches from red wine? Think the sulfites caused it? Wine Scamp wrote a great article about what really causes wine headaches. Current research supports the theory that biogenic amines [...]

]]> By: Golly http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Golly Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:33:35 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-134 Quite a lot of people get headaches from drinking red wine because they drink too much of it and they get what used to be called a hangover. If the cause really is a sulphite allergy then it would be set off by fruit juice and dried fruit as many of these products contain traces of sulphur too. Mixing Tylenol and alcohol is not a liver friendly combo - it's too much to process at once and can cause real lasting damage. If the headaches area real problem then it's smarter not to drink the wine. Wine labels carry warnings galore in the US. It would be interesting to see Twinkies having to carry warnings about the assorted ingredients and their potential effects on a childs body. It's good to make informed choices, but sometimes the selected information required to displayed only on selected products mean consumers make worse choices than with no labels at all. That turned into a bit of a rant - sorry! Quite a lot of people get headaches from drinking red wine because they drink too much of it and they get what used to be called a hangover. If the cause really is a sulphite allergy then it would be set off by fruit juice and dried fruit as many of these products contain traces of sulphur too.

Mixing Tylenol and alcohol is not a liver friendly combo – it’s too much to process at once and can cause real lasting damage. If the headaches area real problem then it’s smarter not to drink the wine.

Wine labels carry warnings galore in the US. It would be interesting to see Twinkies having to carry warnings about the assorted ingredients and their potential effects on a childs body. It’s good to make informed choices, but sometimes the selected information required to displayed only on selected products mean consumers make worse choices than with no labels at all.

That turned into a bit of a rant – sorry!

]]> By: Dr. Debs http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Dr. Debs Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:05 +0000 http://wine-scamp.com/2007/11/04/science-and-your-red-wine-headache/#comment-131 Great post. My friend suffers from these headaches and always thought it was the headaches. I read a post somewhere on the web that suggested taking an antihistamine before drinking wine and presto--no headaches. So it may be an allergic response but not the relatively rare sulfite allergy. Now she takes tylenol and an antihistamine, and doesn't have to hit the migraine meds. Just a single anecdotal experience, and here's the web page I got the idea from: http://www.wineloverspage.com/oxford/corked.shtml. Great post. My friend suffers from these headaches and always thought it was the headaches. I read a post somewhere on the web that suggested taking an antihistamine before drinking wine and presto–no headaches. So it may be an allergic response but not the relatively rare sulfite allergy. Now she takes tylenol and an antihistamine, and doesn’t have to hit the migraine meds. Just a single anecdotal experience, and here’s the web page I got the idea from: http://www.wineloverspage.com/oxford/corked.shtml.

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